“Are you sure this movie was created in 2010?” Said the other Stabbington brother, in disbelief. “And they think we’re the bad guys of this movie? Talk about underrepresentation.”
“Well if you or Gothel are interested in reading more about it, I found a really good tumblr discussion about this entire issue,” said the first Stabbington brother.
(*POC: Person or People of Color)
but seriously tho
even though Tangled had a cute story and amazing art
for a movie that was made in like what? 2010? 2011? It is incredibly unsettling knowing that there was not a single POC.
idk- story time
Little Bangladeshi girl I used to babysit- she’s got dark brown skin and curly black hair and she owns this blond wig you know? And when ever she feels “ugly” (which is most of the time which breaks my heart) she puts on that blond wig so she can feel pretty again. She got that wig after she watched Tangled. She was so distressed by the fact that she was nothing like Rapunzel (or anyone in that whole movie) or all the other girl focused movies where the leads are always white ( with exception to Tiana, Mulan, Pocahontas and Jasmin) with long straight hair- that she got that wig so she could console herself with the fact that she isn’t “white girl pretty” as she likes to call it.
It’s the same bullshit I grew up with and internalised. There is an 18 year age gap between the two of us and I shit you not, the perceptions of beauty and what it means to be beautiful have not changed at all. Only difference is where I used to put powder all over myself to look white, she’s got a blond wig.
I know there’s gonna be people out there who say “it’s just disney! it’s just a kids movie! you’re an adult so you have no say”
Yeah, it is fucking Disney. If you knew about the history of Disney, it’s loaded with racism. The kids movie bit also turns to shit because what- aren’t our POC babies not worthy of being called kids? Aren’t they deserving of having kids shows that have folks who look like them in it? These things matter- believe me, they do.
As for the adults comment- that is actually really fucking scary that it is adults who make this. It’s adults who have a say in what kids can watch. And the adults who made this movie made it pretty darn clear that POC weren’t good enough for kids to watch in this movie. Or that POC kids aren’t deserving of a diverse viewing experience.
man one of my biggest problems with people who are like ‘omg stop complaining it’s not like kids will notice’
kids DO notice
shit, i noticed
and my friends all noticed too.
why do you think i got told to be jasmine or pochahontas when we played around w/ that shit when i wanted to be snow white? because kids notice. they looked at snow white in all her lily-white fucking adorable-ass glory and looked at me and saw some frizzy-haired brown bitch and they’re like, ‘nope.’
kids can develop massive complexes over this shit. little white girls start acting like they’re better because they get the quote-unquote cool princesses and little poc girls feel like shit that they don’t look like the ‘good’ princesses.
so while it may not be the most important thing ever omg in terms of race relations, it does have an effect so can we please stop pretending it doesn’t ok yes thank you.
okay i’d take this a lot more seriously without that ugly-ass graphic
in here poc are mad because they have no one to identify with in a disney movie,
boohoohooo how sad now shut up. Te story is based on Rapunzel by the Grimm Brothers and just so you know it takes placed in germany during the middle age. There werent that many people of colour during that time now were there?
Now stop fucking complaining, im so sick of all the THERE ARE NO BLACK PRINCESSES I AM SO SAD BOOHOO, when there are a lot of colour princesses but you decide to ignore them because she is not “truly black”. And when you DO get a black princess you get mad because she cooks
nice one there guys
Hey there! I’m a real, actual German on the internet, and I also know history and shit. And let me tell you, while the movie is based on a German folk tale, to say it takes place in mediaeval Germany and thus the lack of POC in it is excusable is fucking bullshit.
It takes place in generic Disney fantasyland, and apparently, Disney’s fantasy land is very very white. And if you tell people of colour who are bothered by that to shut up? I kindly invite you to step onto all the lego bricks barefoot. And also to shut the fuck up yourself, sit the fuck down and try to listen and understand instead of happily wallowing in ignorance.
On the historical accuracy front, Tangled was on today, and I noticed it referenced Mozart. Who, for those of you who don’t know, is from mid to late 18th C. As in, more out of place in medieval Europe than POC, even if you’re reading from the most whitewashed history book ever.
(And to clarify before I go on, if they’d not referenced Mozart, and done everything else to the time period, this racism still wouldn’t be okay, this just reminded me, and proved they weren’t even trying to evoke an ‘authentic’ medieval Germany. Well as it seems to be understood by the majority of Americans)
It’s Disney guys. It’s not set in Germany. It’s not set in the middle ages. It’s not accurate in reference to any time period or place. Nor is it accurate in regards to the story of Rapunzel. It’s set in their own separate make believe world. Which is totally okay. Except for the fact they’ve decided a significant proportion of their audience doesn’t deserve to see anyone even remotely resembling them. And that was a choice they made. Their hand was not forced in anyway. Now, everyone just needs to stop making excuses and tell them that this is not okay.
Bless this thread.
Right after the big deal about Disney’s first black princess*, we’re riiight back to this. Way to go, Disney.
*who spent all of 2 seconds as a princess and spent the rest of the movie reminding black kids to shut up, work hard, and accept your lot in life while the white kids get puppies for being spoiled. Real damn progressive.
It’s…it’s a medieval Europe expy. And the only thing close to a POC in Europe during the time period would’ve been Moors.
I..just don’t get it.
WELL ACTUALLY. I was learning about this very thing! As it turns out there were plenty of POCs in Europe throughout the Medieval period! For example, the ancient kingdom of Ethiopia made persistent efforts to build ties to Europe throughout these ages. Many people in the kingdom converted to Catholicism, as evidenced by papal letters that were sent to the ruler of Ethiopia in 1329. Slaves captured from Northern Africa and the Western Sahara ended up in the Netherlands and France. Many slaves worked for years, but eventually bought themselves back using money they saved. One Latin teacher, Clenardus, taught three black slaves how to drill his students for their Latin drills. In 1428, Emperor Yishak of Ethiopia proposed an alliance by double marriage to King Alfonso V of Aragon. This isn’t even taking into account Chinese and Middle Eastern traders that Europeans were in contact with along the Silk Road, which also had several ports in Northern Africa. Also, one should take into account the Roma people and Arab people, all of whom had close ties to Europe.
I am reading a book about this business, you see.